04 Oct supporting material
You are required to respond with depth, breadth and insight to the discussion question(s) as well as one of your class members. Your response to the discussion question(s) must be tied back to the chapter material and outside research is expected. When I ask you to support your answer, you are expected to combine opinion with, minimum 2, citations, insight from your experiences, observations of others experiences, analysis of the facts/information and a conclusion. PLEASE do not limit your citations to just the book! Find other supporting material outside of the class structure. You are also required to answer the question posed by the instructor and class members’. (Please note: The guidance outlined above will contribute to you “meeting the expectations” for the discussion. Additional participation will contribute to a grade that will “exceed the expectations” for the discussion
The combined original reply and two responses are worth up to 20 points per student. The criteria used to determine the point distribution will be:
| Original Reply: | 10 points |
| Initiated Peer Reply (2): | 8 points |
| Uses of sources: | 2 points |
Cite examples, textbook material, or your own supporting material to back up your opinion.
Action: Read the below peer discussion board posts and provide your classmate with feedback on your opinion of their position. Do you agree and why? Do you disagree and why? Replies to your class members’ are intended to move the discussion forward. Telling them that they simply did a good job is not acceptable. Statements like “I feel”, “I believe” and/or “I think” are difficult to measure and, highly, subjective. Asking a question or two about the position they took will move the discussion forward. Replies are 200 word minimum
Action: Read the below peer discussion board posts and provide your classmate with feedback on your opinion of their position. Do you agree and why? Do you disagree and why? Replies to your class members’ are intended to move the discussion forward. Telling them that they simply did a good job is not acceptable. Statements like “I feel”, “I believe” and/or “I think” are difficult to measure and, highly, subjective. Asking a question or two about the position they took will move the discussion forward. Replies are 200 word minimum
Peer Reply #1
Collecting Union PAC Money
by Joshua Albo – Wednesday, October 2, 2019, 9:50 PM
Collecting Union PAC Money
In the case of Idaho’s Right to Work Act, with the exclusion of payroll deductions for political purposes, the state is no longer needed to be involved. The state doesn’t financially support the unions; there is no reason for them to be involved with the right to speak politically. The state shouldn’t have any say in restricting the “speech” of the union because they aren’t the ones collecting even though they are state-level dues. Since Idaho’s laws allow political speech, “Idaho’s public employee unions are free to engage in such speech as they see fit. They simply are barred from enlisting the state in support of that endeavor. Idaho’s decision to limit public employee payroll deductions as it has does not infringe the unions’ First Amendment rights” (FindLaw’s United States Supreme Court case and opinions, n.d., Para.3). I don’t believe that the state should be allowed to dictate to local governments and how they should negotiate with their employees unless it involves funds from the state.
Typically the state is in charge of granting municipal corporations their power, but they still, don’t have to say in how the municipal corporations handle their day-to-day duties (Carrel & Heavrin, 2014). Even though in this case, Idaho is considered to have ultimate control over the municipal corporations, the power still doesn’t give the state the ability to have any influence over the local government’s payroll deductions. In this case study, the state is not directly involved or getting involved in the local union negotiations; the state is claiming that the negotiations don’t involve them. Union dues, “Since labor unions must represent the entire bargaining unit regardless of membership, the fees are meant to cover the cost of collective bargaining, contract administration and grievance adjustments—but not political activities, such as lobbying” (Nagele-Piazza, 2019, para.2). These are all justifiable fees that members are expected to pay. However, the political activities are an expression of the first amendment, and since union dues weren’t being used in the correct manner in this case, it is why the state is favored.
This one-sided decision to make it mandatory to collect union dues from nonmembers in public sector unions was unjustified. Non-union member employees should have the right whether to pay union dues or not since they aren’t involved. In the case of Janus V. AFSCME, it was decided that “States and public-sector unions may no longer extract agency fees from nonconsenting employees,” Justice Samuel Alito Jr. wrote for the majority in Janus v. AFSCME Council 31, U.S., No. 16-1466. Prior to the ruling, public-sector workers in certain states could be required to pay “fair share” or “agency” fees even if they weren’t union members” (Nagele-Piazza, 2019, para.2). I agree with this statement; fees should only be mandatory to union members. All nonconsenting union members should be opted-out of the fees unless they volunteer to be apart of the dues. This week’s case study is a great learning experience because it allows us to view a real-life case that not everybody experiences on a day-to-day basis.
Action: Read the below peer discussion board posts and provide your classmate with feedback on your opinion of their position. Do you agree and why? Do you disagree and why? Replies to your class members’ are intended to move the discussion forward. Telling them that they simply did a good job is not acceptable. Statements like “I feel”, “I believe” and/or “I think” are difficult to measure and, highly, subjective. Asking a question or two about the position they took will move the discussion forward. Replies are 200 word minimum
Reply #2
Collecting Union PAC Money
by Alinur Yasin – Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 6:44 PM
Collecting Union PAC Money
Union dues are the basis for the union’s operations. According to the Idaho’s Right to Work Act there was a change in the status (Carrel, 2013). The regards to the union assessing their freedom of speech while collecting dues to influence political speech is unacceptable. Especially, when the PAC decisions are made on a unilateral basis.
Most unions are voting the democratic basis values that support democratic ideology. What’s most unfortunate, is that the decision at Idaho went through all levels of the justice system which reached the federal level. The State’s argument to dissuade the union should negotiate for non-partisan issues and transparency. Also, the State has the right to assume that union dues should be used for the economical basis for its members and not for political influential means.
It’s unfortunate, that despite the freedom of speech clause in the constitution, the Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) submitted a brief in Janus v AFSCME, Council 31, a case before the United States Supreme Court to question whether public employees can financially assist unions they do not support (Kovacs, 2017). In another case, Abood v. Detroit Board of Education (1977), unions were allowed to collect compulsory dues. These cases both reviewed the position of government involvement with the dues in the union. The new case presented to the Supreme Court allowed the Abood case to be challenged. Since the Abood case, unions were diverting dues to ideological or political activity (Kovacs, 2017).
Part of the taxpayers ongoing challenge with government operations is transparency and uniformity. All government levels, especially the local and state level should be unbiased and perform at the basis for the benefit of society as a whole. The PAC adds bias and sways decisions to benefit one group over another. In the article, Supreme Court rules against public unions collecting fees from nonmember, the ruling stated that it was “unconstitutional to allow public employee unions to require collective-bargaining fees from workers who choose not to join the union” (Barnes, 2018). This is a major blow to the unions. Perhaps, the Idaho rules may also be adjusted to reflect these recent changes. State government as the local government should dictate for impartiality as to how the PAC funds are used.
The Supreme Court favored the State primarily due to impartiality. The government should be impartial in all of its dealings to ensure that the services that are provided benefit society and their communities as best as possible without additional cost or unfair advantages. Lastly, as per the dues being collected for political purposes, the union dues are being misappropriated and misused. Nonetheless, since the Supreme Court has decided on the issue, the States can dictate to the local governments.
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